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Liner Disciples: Not Eating Their Own Dog Food

After spending some time reading the Piranha"frenzy" is a noun defined as a state or
Press (water garden forums), I am scared to"period" of uncontrolled excitement or wild
wade into the water [Forum] or even "get mybehavior. That sort of describes the eating
feet wet." Good grief, talk about "eatingetiquette of a Piranha! Notice, it is for a
their own". . . Where is the loyalty,period of time. What happens when there are
appreciation, gratitude, dedication,more pond liner kit installers then there are
camaraderie  and  "family  pride"  pride?customers? Even professionals with college
degrees are installing pond kits, due to the
I have been visiting water garden forumsexorbitant profits. What about the growing
lately, and "I have not had this much funawareness of the statistics related to the
since  kindergarten  art  class."undependability of liners? Or the reputation
of, or lack of, business ethics and shoddy
Wow! Did I discover something amazing. I haveworkmanship? What happens when the clients
known for many years that one of the majorfind out they were deceived by not being told
challenges in raising koi fish is to keep thethe whole truth about liners? (Read, "Pond
koi from eating their own. Consequently, theLiners: Seven Reasons Why I Don't Use Them"
eggs are separated from the pond as quicklyby Doug Hoover - Google.) What is the answer
as  possible  to  prevent  this.to all these questions? The "frenzy" state or
period of uncontrolled excitement or wild
After spending some time reading the Piranhabehavior  will  cease.
Press (water garden forums), I am scared to
wade into the water [forum] or even "get myAnd what about the state of the water feature
feet  wet."business' reputation when the proverbial dust
settles and the truth about pond liners
Good grief, talk about "eating their own" . .becomes evident? This is the reason I am
.speaking out now! Building waterfalls and
ponds has been my love and my bread and
Where are the loyalty, appreciation,butter  for  over  a  quarter  of  a century.
gratitude, dedication, camaraderie and
"family pride" Pride? In the Lion's Pride,I was eavesdropping on one of the hundreds of
the lioness hunts to feed the Lion and herforum sites. I copied only two pages of posts
cubs. If she is unable to bring home theand replies by forum members and/or pond
bacon, the cubs could become lunch for theliner  "disciples."
Lion. In the Liner Pride, there is no "Pride"
[sense of fam fam] and like the cubs, theyHere  is  a  brief  summary:
are all branded as "food storage"! ... with a
very  limited  shelf  life.Greg Witstock was praised for his
accomplishments.
Some time around 1990, Greg Witstock, the
lion of the liner industry, started the "pondGreg's financial success of "ADI" Aquascapes
liner craze" which transformed into the "pondDesign  Inc.  was  touted.
liner frenzy," as quoted in many pond
magazines. I have lovingly given GregComments were made about overpriced products,
Witstock the title of "Liner Messiah," sincebordering  on  gouging.
he founded Aquascape Design Inc. Aquascape
manufactures pond liner kits, and Greg hasDiscussions took place on how products could
developed a marketing plan ("the way"),be produced using specific common plumbing
selling through his nation-wide network ofproducts,  for  a  fraction  of  the  price.
pond  liner  installers,  the  "disciples.
Better priced pumps with longer warranties
"Witstock has invested a fortune in productcould  be  found  elsewhere.
engineering and development. He has developed
successful sales tools and techniques for hisHowever, the liner disciples are still using
"disciples" using a diverse line of products,Greg's beautiful brochures, videos and door
training videos, books and sales materialshangers, which he makes available to all his
that can literally guarantee a "disciple's"disciples at a fraction of the cost. But they
success  if  they  follow  the  "way".are not being loyal to their "messiah" by
using Aquascape products because they are
You may ask, that all sounds very good, soshopping around for cheaper products. There
what is the down side? Well, the lineris no such thing as product loyalty or
industry is marketing an overpriced andprofessional etiquette. But then again, are
inferior product with a dismal track record.Piranhas or starving lions known to
The pond liner track record speaks fordemonstrate loyalty or appreciation?After
itself:logging in on this particular water garden
forum, I tried to share some facts about
More than 37% of all waterfalls have seriousconcrete pond construction or using high
structural damage within 3 years ofperformance pumps and quality building
construction.products. Let's see, which of these is easier
to  do:  1.
57% of homeowners say they are rather
unsatisfied with the way their waterfall cameBuild a pond using concrete and steel that
out  after  the  project  was  completed.takes a week to finish and nets $5,000
profit, and guarantee the finished product
One in three waterfalls and ponds are leakingfor 20 years or more?... or 2. Build a liner
water  within  nine  months  of  completion.pond in a single day, for a profit of $5,000,
and guarantee the liner for one year against
63% of "do-it-yourselfers" say they wishedfactory defect and not have to be responsible
they had the proper information from the "getwhen rats, gophers or tree roots compromise
go"  or  that  they  had  hired  someone.the liner, because it wasn't covered by the
warranty?. Is it any wonder that after I
These statistics are from the pond linerposted my articles "Pondless Waterfalls:
industry itself (Bob Wilder, 48-HourConcrete vs. Liners" and "Pond Liners: Seven
Waterfall; pond liner installer for 18Reasons why I do Not Use Them," I was locked
years). I can confirm and attest to theseout of the forum and banned from the website?
figures myself. I have built over 1,900It was akin to shouting, "I love the Jewish
concrete and rebar waterfalls and ponds overpeople!"  at  a  Klu  Klux  Klan  rally.
the past 26 years. I have ripped out and
replaced dozens of defective liner ponds andI discovered the forum administrator was also
replaced them with concrete and rebar,the webmaster and owner of the domain name
attaching lifetime warranties. I have alsoand owner of a landscaping company that
advised and aided angry pond liner owners byinstalls pond liners!The "Liner Messiah"
successfully suing the installers thatshowed them the way, and his "disciples" took
refused to come back and correct serious leakwhat  they  wanted  and  went  their  way.
problems. The words "frenzy" and "craze,"
used often when relating to the pond linerDon't compromise your integrity. It is the
industry, are ironically very appropriate.essence of who you are and what you will
"Crazed" is usually used as an adjective andbecome. Build your character on a strong
means wildly insane or excited. The industryfoundation, and when the storms of life and
is exploding. Why? It is basically fueled bywinds of adversity beat you upside the head,
greed (a get rich quick scheme). Where elseyou will stand!Build your waterfall and pond
can you spend $500 - $800 for aon a strong concrete (4500psi) and rebar
do-it-yourself kit, install it in one day,foundation. And when the rats, gophers and
and walk away $2,500 - $4,500 richer? Youtree roots come, you will have no regrets,
should ask questions when you discover thatyour integrity will shine like the noonday
professionals with college degrees aresun, and your waterfall will bring you
leaving their professions to install linerlong-term joy, peace, relaxation and pleasure
ponds. That's really "craze-e!" The wordfor decades to come. I Promise.



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